On this episode of “Death in The Garden,” we share our second interview with Dr. Mordecai Ogada which we obtained during the Our Land, Our Nature Congress in Marseille, France. we go deep into speculating about the more nefarious side of the global climate change narrative, including the obsession with the fertility of African women, the prospect of protected areas being refuges for elites, the establishment of decentralized colonies headed by colonizing NGOs, and conservation being a smoke screen for extraction and industry.